September 29, 2007

Cleaning Up Parliament, starting now

The process has started for the draft law that was presented some time ago by Italia dei Valori, setting out the disqualification from being a candidate for felons sentenced to more than 2 years, and on the ineligibility of company owners who are carrying out an activity that is a concession allocated by the State, for those who are in direct or indirect charge of the company or those who can determine its direction. The DDL {draft law} will be discussed in the Commission for Constitutional Affairs in a week’s time.
Our proposal has been stuck for months and I am convinced that without V-Day and my pressing the President of the Lower House it would never have seen the light of day.
The DDL asks for the application of the regulation that already applies to Local Councils which bars anyone who has been convicted and sentenced to at least 2 years in prison as well as a distinct separation between the interests connected to the State concessions and the possibility to influence how they are assigned. It’s not possible to be a concessionaire and a parliamentarian at the same time.
It is not an “ad personam” law as certain members of the Centre Right have declared while citing the concession of the TV frequencies and the interests of Silvio Berlusconi. The law is designed to put parliamentarians on an equal footing with people holding other public positions in relation to the regulations applied to them and to eliminate a conflict of interests.
I will keep you informed in detail about the progress of this DDL. I’ll tell you about who is supporting it and who is putting obstacles in its way, starting with the forthcoming discussion in the Commission for Constitutional Affairs chaired by Luciano Violante.

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September 26, 2007

Media and bullets

I am really surprised by the reaction of the journalists and the opinion-givers to V-day on 8 September.
A comedian organises an event to collect signatures for a proposed popular law and more than 300,000 citizens participate in a single day.
That has never happened in the history of the Republic.
Then Beppe Grillo suggests civic lists without the presence of convicts and he invites citizens to go along to the meetings of the Town Council. All stuff that is in accordance with the laws of the State.
The next day, the politicians, who had up until then ignored the people of the Internet, in the hope that they would not disturb those who manoevre, have been trying to belittle the message, even by discrediting it. But it has to be said, the politicians, apart from a few unfortunate opinions, have not really gone overboard and in certain cases they have even agreed with Grillo’s criticisms.
But not the journalists. Almost all of them whatever the publication they work for, have described Grillo as the anti-Christ. It’s embarrassing for me to listen to them while they are loading on the insults against the people who went out into the streets, pouring scorn on them and giving Grillo labels like fascist or terrorist. The feeling is that V-day was organised against them, not against the parties and they are trying to defend themselves.
The use of words like bullets is a new form of terrorism created by journalists when out in the streets and the squares we saw just Italian citizens of all ages queuing up in orderly lines. It’s a character assassination that I don’t like. If anything were to happen, it is the ones who are conjuring up the image of bullets that will have to bear the responsibility.

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September 24, 2007

Visco, a step back

I’m publishing a letter that I sent today to il Corriere

“Dear editor
Piero Ostellino’s thoughts in yesterday’s il Corriere editorial about the Visco - Finance Police situation, deserve some attention.
Rome’s prosecutor has asked for the archiving of the criminal proceedings against Visco saying that even though he has done an “illegitimate act”, he has not however committed an “illegal act” that needs to be taken to the criminal courts. That is even though the act is illegal, it doesn’t carry a criminal sanction. In other words, the Deputy Minister, has anyway violated a principle of law, to which – in one (to say to Ostellino) – that can only mean a penalty that can and must, from time to time, be evaluated in other environments: on a civic level (and in fact General Speciale is taking steps to ask for compensation); on an administrative level, in relation to the effectiveness of the solutions adopted (the substitution of the General himself); on the level of political opportunity, with particular reference to the continuation of the arrangement by which the Deputy Minister has political responsibility for the Finance Police.
It is in fact this last aspect that makes me reinforce the idea of the illegitimacy of the behaviour of the Deputy Minister pointed out by the magistracy that undermines the relationship of trust that must exist of necessity between him and the Finance Police for which he has political responsibility. Thus, it is evidently the right moment for a step back (at least as regards the specific responsibility that is under discussion).
Such a decision could be a precursor to, or could take place at the same time as, another more important act of political responsibility of the whole government: the reduction of the number of undersecretaries and deputy ministers from the current 102 to not more than 50. And above all the reduction to no more than 15, the number of ministries (perhaps starting in fact with the Ministry of Infrastructure that I am leading and which is proving to be an anachronism keeping it separate from the Ministry of Transport.)
It would be a great wave of innovation that our Government needs now if it wants not just to survive but also to be credible.”

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September 22, 2007

Council of Ministers: New Prisons

Text:
"It was a tricky Cabinet meeting: today we examined financial priorities. The Minister for the Economy, Padoa Schioppa explained how it will be possible to put together the next Finance Bill. It is certain there will not be any tax increases; we cannot afford to go down that road. If money is needed, we shall have to find it by reducing waste and privileges, and by combating tax evasion.
It will require lightness of touch, the aim being to avoid further State iindebtedness. Obviously, with a finance bill of this kind, it is a question of defining priorities. Each minister presented his wish list, in terms of current expenditure and investment. A lot of money goes on employing public servants, on staffing.
I was concerned not so much about current expenditure, because in a year I have already reduced the staff at my ministry by three or four thousand, as about spending on investment, or at any rate on essentials. In the Cabinet I am one of those who has asked that the Finance Bill should not be a mere accounting exercise, but that it should send a message to the country. As chair of Italia dei Valori, and as a minister, I have spoken out on three issues, advocating three solutions that we need to carry forward: solidarity, education, and security.
In these three areas, what can I do in concrete terms? My brief is infrastructure, so I can give an answer only in that field. I would do something very different if I were Minister of Justice…
Where solidarity is concerned, I shared with the other ministers my “housing plan”. I think sums should be earmarked for rebuilding the housing stock available to local authorities for those who cannot afford a house and are in danger of ending up on the streets. We should not hand housing out free, but if a public agency has its own housing stock it can meet the needs of the weakest sections of society. This would also create work for the enterprises whose task it would be to restructure and rebuild the housing concerned. For this, I asked for one billion, two hundred million, together with technical regulations designed to speed up procedures. I also asked, as a preliminary measure, for a solution to the problem that will arise on 15 October, when the moratorium on evictions comes to an end. Some people are saying it should be extended. No! Owners should not have to pay for the inability of the State to meet the needs of the weakest in society. We should take a series of measures to prevent these 2,500 families from ending up on the streets, but not without restoring the right of ownership to the owners.
Where schools are concerned, there is a very delicate issue of safety: there are thousands of schools which are in a similar state to the school at San Giuliano, in Puglia, which collapsed due to an earthquake, killing tens of children. We cannot allow this to happen again. I put forward a plan to make schools safe, including their plumbing and electrical systems, with interventions at already identified schools, region by region.
Security: there are so many things that can be done but I, If I am given the resources, I can build additional prisons and put right the existing ones. There is a lot of talk of the damaging effects of the Great Pardon nowadays. Do not forget that the Great Pardon was justified on the grounds of overcrowding in prisons. Well, after a year, the prisons are more jam-packed than ever and the detainees are worse off than before. So shall we have another Great Pardon ? It would be unacceptable and immoral. If there are more criminals, we should build more prisons. This is the contribution I can make as Minister for Infrastructure.
I am concerned, as you can see, not only with roads, bridges, tunnels and railways, but also to create infrastructure that serves the country."

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September 19, 2007

Release the delinquents. Jail the comedians

Beppe Grillo has interviewed the son of the couple from Gorgo al Monticano who were ferociously massacred by two criminals, one of whom was released from prison as a result of the Great Pardon. The video of the interview has been published on Grillo’s blog.
Daniele Pelliciardi speaks in a measured way, he says that he has written to the Minister of Justice and has not received any reply. He doesn’t agree with the law of the Great Pardon. He asks about the reasoning behind it. You can understand him. What’s more, Grillo has written that he wants to collect witness statements from people who have suffered from criminals who were released because of the Great Pardon law.
Clemente Mastella has not responded to the words of Daniele Pelliciardi. However, in his blog, he has responded to Grillo by insulting him using the term: “delinquent without a heart”
I don’t think that it is acceptable for the Minister of Justice to use such an expression about any citizen. I feel that it is not only showing a lack of dignity as well as being intimidation that is not provoked by any specific fact. For the moment, the delinquents have been released from prison. I hope that there is not the desire to compensate for this by imprisoning a comedian for the crime of lese-majesty.

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September 18, 2007

V-Day

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” How this is eating away at everyone! Parliament is divided into those who don’t want to talk about it to exorcise the problem and those who feel the need to talk about it to discredit it, thinking that in that way, they can reduce the phenomenon.
The word that is must often heard is “anti politics”. Italian citizens, spontaneously, of every social extraction and from every part of Italy, without hurting anyone, make their way to a table to leave their signature to carry out a constitutional right: a proposed popular law to say that felons must not stay in Parliament. This is politics. Everyone understands that, but some have to be completely ruthless because they think that they will then isolate the phenomenon. It reminds me of the sick person who throws the doctor out of the house so as not to hear anyone talk about the illness.
I am proud to have been one of those citizens who participated in this moment of direct democracy.
Now we need to watch out and see that the procedure doesn’t destroy the substance, as happened to me years ago.
I collected 150,000 signatures for a popular initiative law about the reduction of the number of parties and the direct voting by the citizens. I presented the signatures but they put them in a filing cabinet. Seven years later, that proposed law has still not been discussed.
You need to collect all the signatures, together with the electoral certificates, and above all take them to Parliament so that the whole country, all the public opinion is mobilized. We need to put the Parliament in a position to face up to its responsibilities so as to avoid it pretending that nothing has happened.
On that day, there must be a massive demonstration in the streets, with people who are all together and invoking the discussion of this proposed law.
As a parliamentarian, I too, have already presented the same proposed law. They never listened. Now the proposal I made has now been placed in the Parliamentary timetable, but only so that when this proposal for a popular law arrives, they can say: “It has already been discussed.”
Don’t worry: I have already said that the main instrument must be the law signed by the citizens.
Another thing to watch out for is this: according to the law, when a draft law is presented, Parliament must discuss it. But there’s no indication of a time limit nor the limits of the possibilities for amending it. Thus it’s necessary to check the amendments that are put forward day by day. Each point can be nullified with a tiny amendment.
The first says: “Felons cannot be candidates”; someone will add an amendment saying: “apart from those who…” with a series of exceptions so that in the end, the ones who land up in prison are those who collected the signatures.
Or: “No one can stay in Parliament for more than 2 terms of office”. It’s enough to simply add the word “consecutive” so that it would be enough that between one election and the next, a person could be a regional councillor or a member of the European Parliament to bypass the regulation. If then there’s the addition of “in each branch of Parliament”, it would be possible to stay for two terms in the Lower House, two In the Senate and so on.
I have already heard those who are already taking action to construct such details to say that formally you are right, but in the essence you are going to be taken for a ride. Let’s all watch out.”

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September 16, 2007

Council of Ministers: Housing Plan

Text:
The day before yesterday, before the Council of Ministers, there was the meeting of the ministers who are part of the Credit and Savings committee that controls the financial arrangements for credit and savings. From the technical reports presented, we have been able to observe that the so-called mortgage crisis that has hit America, due to a “junk” system in which money was around with a very high level of risk, has not caught on in Italy. Here, the “sub-prime” mortgages account for less than 1%. For now, it’s gone OK, but the next time it could be bad. That crisis is due to the fact that even in the united States, they didn’t respect the rules of the game, above all in relation to the conflict of interests. The rating companies, the ones that certify the credit ratings of others, at times were in fcat created by and definitely paid by those that they are controlling. Even in America they use Italian thinking.
Furthermore, they removed from the balance sheets the operations that were at risk: a crafty move to the detriment of the saving public.
In Italy we have discovered a detail that has not yet produced damages, but about which we need to prepare regulations: the so-called “estero-vestite” {foreign-clothed} companies. Certain banks and insurance companies that operate in italy, are Italian, are managing our money but however they have their registered office abroad. Result: if all goes well, they get their profits, but if things go badly, they have to respect the law of that country.
The Council of Ministers has discussed the so-called “Housing Plan”. I am the Minister of Infrastructure, but I am concerned not just with roads and railways. I also deal with the building of homes. The Housing Plan is the project that makes sure that, in each village, town and city there is housing available for those who don’t have the money to buy, nor to rent housing.
I have presented a plan that is in two phases: one that involves the need for finance and the other that needs no finance as it reuses the old structures of the defence establishments and the logistical services of the military with which it will be possible to make available 8,000 homes a year for the next 10 years.
There’s a diatribe between those who maintain that evictions should be postponed and those, like me, who believe that private property must be respected. It’s not possible to leave social needs to be charged to private citizens. But we all must take on the problems. Since there is the possibility to do so, the solution is to acquire a pool of public housing without having to steal it from anyone who has perhaps taken a lifetime to buy their own house. In the end, how much will the first house cost? Padoa Schioppa will decide that. I believe that, since some money was left over from the last Budget, not distributing money into the air, but investing in bricks and mortar is a good thing.”

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September 15, 2007

Say Yes to Forleo’s request

Intercepts that are relevant to a crime should be used in relation to anyone, and especially if they represent citizens in Parliament or in Government. Thus even for Fassino and D'Alema. I hope that the Committees for the Lower and Upper Houses give authorisation to the request of the magistrate Clementina Forleo. Italia dei Valori will vote in favour. I believe that it is in the interests of the politicians themselves to demonstrate in the court of law that they are innocent of the accusations as an operation of transparency in relation to the country and the voters. They should do that rather than use the Chamber of Deputies’ Committee for Authorisation as a shield and thus allow themselves to be used.
Whoever is innocent has no fear of the law. A person cannot decide whether or not to stand trial. The so-called wind of anti-politics that in fact is just a negative opinion of the political class, must not be given more power by avoiding a possible judgement because of one’s position in Parliament.
Federico Palomba, Italia dei Valori’s representative on the Committee for Authorisation, will vote in favour of the use of the intercepts. I hope that the colleagues from the other parties will do the same.

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September 12, 2007

The government team

I’m presenting an interview that is published in today’s La Repubblica:

La Repubblica: Minister Di Pietro, there are rumours of a government reshuffle. Do you worry about you your position as Minister?
ADP: «I am willing to co-operate if it is decided to reunite the Ministries of Transport and Infrastructure. Let Prodi do the reorganizing that is necessary and he doesn’t need to worry that Italia dei Valori will interfere to keep its hat on this position.»

La Repubblica: Does that mean that you are ready to go?
ADP: «I’m saying that I am willing to relinquish my position and I acknowledge that the decision is to be taken by the President of the Council. I am saying this because I believe that it is not sufficient to have a Di Pietro or a Bianchi to run the two ministries. However, it’s obvious that this operation cannot simply be aimed at removing Di Pietro, but it has to be a wider activity that involves more than one Ministry. Merging some and giving a different specification to the tasks of others. The current division of the Ministries, after more than a year of government often gives rise to confusion, duplication or gaps and absences.

La Repubblica: I was about to ask you for your opinion on the team and its results.
ADP: «Changing the players because you think you’ll play a better game is wholly inappropriate and would discredit the good work that the government has carried out up until now. And even the Ministers who are directly concerned do not deserve that. It’s not a question of personalities or of reshuffle. The problem is the current organisation of the government, not just the individual Ministries. However I can’t be the judge of myself and give an opinion about the government that I am part of. So for this reason, I am abstaining from indicating the various Ministries that should be restructured.

La Repubblica: Can you give a few names?
ADP: «No, but I know very well how to go about it. Anyway a well-intentioned voter could look at the list of ministers to understand how they operate. It would be possible to reduce the number of Ministers from the 24 that we have now to about 15. With the associated reduction in the number of undersecretaries by about 50. I’m not naming names. But I can talk about my Ministry. It was an error, and it’s not enough to say that at the time I was opposed to it, to dismember it into Infrastructure and Transport. Everyone would work better if the whole thing were united.»

La Repubblica: So you really believe there will be a government reshuffle?
ADP: «I have not spoken to either Fassino or Prodi so I don’t have first hand information about this possibility that seems to have originated with the Secretary of the DS. Thus I can’t judge statements that I don’t know about. But the whole affair is unlikely to be followed up and so I believe it should be treated like the latest summer bubble. And I’m saying bubble so as not to say fairy story.»

La Repubblica: Minister, you are anyway talking about the “good work” of the government. But the opinion polls indicate that the voters don’t seem to be in favour.
ADP: «When you are in government, it’s not enough to produce, but you need to produce trust in those who are administered. The government deserves praise simply because in a year it has achieved the objective of sorting out the finances. One of the three points in the manifesto, together with solidarity and development. In spite of that, the public feels that we have not achieved enough. So we have to take action to remedy this before things get worse. And one way of doing this could be in merging the Ministries.»

La Repubblica: They will tell you that you are a demagogue, that you travel with anti-politics. Especially since you supported Beppe Grillo’s campaign..
ADP:«How I have been behaving demonstrates that it’s not a question of demagogy. For example, I have always said that we should reduce the number of parties and even though this puts my own party at risk, I have collected signatures for a referendum. Furthermore, I believe that Grillo’s demonstration, going beyond the colourful expressions used in Bologna, was not an act of anti-politics, but an action of true and real politics guaranteed by the Constitution. Collecting signatures for a law by popular initiative is the most political thing you can do. To talk of anti-politics thus is a demonstration of a lack of capacity to analyse and to give a response to the questions of the citizens.»

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September 11, 2007

RAI without shame

On September 8, the State TV and Radio News programmes showed themselves up for what they are: a pure extension of the Party Secretaries. A sounding box of disinformation that reached such levels that would beat Ceaucescu’s Rumania.
Hundreds of thousands of citizens, the very same ones that through the licence fee pay the salaries of the journalists and the RAI directors, thronged into the squares of Italy to sign for a draft law as a popular initiative to reform Parliament. The services of the RAI before and after the event have been shameful. For the first time in Italy, 300,000 signatures have been collected in a single day and about all this there was not even a whisper. The Italians managed without the RAI to find out about the event, they used the Internet and word of mouth.
This situation is no longer tolerable for a country that wants to consider itself civilised.
The RAI must be freed from party interference and news must be given back to the citizens. Italia dei Valori will make a move with this in mind as soon as possible.
I must admit that on Saturday and Sunday I felt sick listening to the TV news, the same that the Italians who were up to date with the events, will have felt.
A piece of advice to each RAI journalist: “Keep your head held high. You are paid to provide information, not to serve the parties.”

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September 09, 2007

My signature for V-Day

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Today I took off the jacket I wear as a Minister and I put on my clothes as a citizen, because I feel the need to support an initiative that is a draft law by popular initiative. This initiative aims to shake Parliament with a wave of direct democracy so that it can understand that it can no longer act as if it didn't know anything about democracy!
Parliament says that it is not OK for convicts to stay in Parliament, but it’s not passing the laws to put them out. So it’s good that the citizens are taking action.
I, as a Minister and as the leader of a party, Italia dei Valori, I have already set this draft law before Parliament about 10 times. Everyone tells me “what a great draft law” and then they put it away in the filing cabinet. So perhaps it’s right to be really united with this multitude of good people, because unity is strength, but that is a unity with a lower case “u” so as to not make it seem like a party. The unity of the citizens with great willingness just to be clear, a union that can change the faces of those who are doing politics and not just in a formal way and with acronyms.

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September 05, 2007

98,000,000,000 tax request

I have received many letters about the news given in Genoa’s il Secolo XIX about the 98,000,000,000 euro in unpaid taxes by the concessionary companies to the detriment of the State Monopoly Agency, the structure that controls them. I’m publishing one that summarises the others.

Dear Minister,
I wanted to ask you why you don’t devote a post to the mega tax dodge of 98,000,000,000 for the State Monopoly? By now some time has gone by since the news came out on Beppe Grillo’s blog. 98,000,000,000 is an enormous sum: it’s three times the value of the gold reserves of our country, exactly what the President of the Council wanted to sell off to reduce the public debt. If they got this tax paid with interest and appropriate fines we would get to a sum of at least 150,000,000,000 euro. That is much much more than all the gold reserves of the country, and with this sum it would be possible to decisively reduce the Italian public debt that is the highest in Europe, or reduce the tax burden that is suffocating the country and economic progress! I offer you greetings and I wish you good work in the interests of the citizens.”
Francesco

To the people directly responsible: Romano Prodi, Tommaso Padoa Schioppa e Vincenzo Visco, with carbon copies to all the Ministers, I have sent a letter to be discussed at the Council of Ministers. I will publish their responses on the blog. I would point out that, according to what is written in il Secolo XIX, the Court of Accounts has asked the concessionary companies for a few tens of thousands of millions of euro in compensation for the damage suffered by the State and the director of the Monopolies has current proceedings for 1,200,000,000 euro in damages.
It’s not possible to ask citizens to pay taxes and at the same time, to not give responses in relation to 98,000,000,000 euro of unpaid tax.
Just today, an initial response to this issue has been given on the Government's website.

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September 04, 2007

Cutting Public Expenditure

I'm publishing an interview with la Repubblica that appears on the front page:

ADP: “Last year my Ministry reduced current spending more than tenfold, excluding personnel costs. Having said that I welcome anyone who can help me find a solution for making further improvements.”

Repubblica: And yet your Ministry is among those that could be asked to make further sacrifices.
ADP: “I am available to the Minister of the Economy, but I would like to remind readers that since I took on this position I have reduced all the external consultancies, and there were so many of them, and I brought the work in-house. I found whole packets of studies on “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”, many of which I haven’t even paid or I sent them to the Court of Accounts. There was also a nucleus of people, the so-called extraordinary commissioners, that I sent home. One had been appointed for each job named in the framework law, a folly. Then I’ll give you another example: the Ministry paid 23 euro a month for each employee for email. Today it’s free.”

Repubblica: So it’s up to the other ministries to make cuts?
ADP: “As I have already explained I am willing to cooperate. Having said this I think that the government should give a good example on three fundamental issues: It is necessary to cut current spending and stop spending that is out of control; eliminate waste and favouritism connected to politics starting with Parliament and ending up with the local authorities and I would abolish even the Provinces and the Mountain communities; finally I would make the bureaucracy more efficient by eliminating useless procedures. To be clear: after my signature an ministerial document “needs” another 42 signatures. What’s the point? These are the three steps needed to get credibility back. Once this has been done, the struggle goes on against tax dodgers but explaining to citizens that if they don’t pay taxes they go to prison. And every euro recovered from tax dodging must go to reducing taxes.”

Repubblica: So you are in agreement with Veltroni who is asking for a reduction in the tax burden starting with this year?
ADP: “I say that if this year we recover 3,000,000,000 in taxes that have been dodged, every euro recovered must go to the reduction of taxes. Cutting expenditure and reducing taxes must go hand in hand because they are two sides of the same coin, but above all they can’t wait another minute.”

Repubblica: Do you fear that there will be cuts to the investments that your Ministry is planning?
ADP: “When I arrived I found 270,000,000,000 euro for investment set out in the framework law. But that was money that was approved, in reality there wasn’t a lira. I have done a spending programme for 5 to 6 thousand million a year. This is the amount I have asked for. However, be careful not to cut spending on investment in Infrastructure because this is money that is looking to the future, they mean earnings, not losses.”

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September 02, 2007

The pizzo and the Confindustria

Prodi has said that the decision to eject from the Confindustria those business people who pay the pizzo is: “A great example”. Many others have said they are in agreement.
However I believe it is a big mistake.
To eject someone who is suffering extortion by the mafia without first removing the causes, without bringing once more under the control of the State whole areas in which criminality is governing is against logic.
The causes are being confused with the effects and action is being taken simply against these. The windscreen cleaners can be beaten by preventing the entrance of clandestines into Italy and making their expulsion really effective, not by criminalizing those who wash the windscreens of a car. The same is true for those who pay the pizzo. The causes should be eliminated, even the political causes, those that determine the strength of the mafia before asking for money from those who are its victims. Rather than expelling the business people who pay the pizzo, they should expel the business people who do business with the mafia, in Sicily and in the North, and who owe their fortunes to the mafia. They should also expel the administrators of the Public Administration in Sicily if they have relations with mafia people that can be demonstrated. And finally the business people who have been convicted for crimes like corruption, kick backs, false accounting and tax dodging, should also be expelled from the Confindustria. When Luca Cordero di Montezemolo suggests these expulsions I will give him my congratulations.

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